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C.S.M.P. Digest             Sat, 09 May 92       Volume 1 : Issue 76

Today's Topics:

    Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming


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From: [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne)
Subject: Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 11:56:42 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR


    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
have been wondering for months now.
    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.


P.S.    Dr. Pepper is not to be confused with the mixed drink known as
the Flaming Doctor Pepper, which consists of a pint of Weinhard's Ale,
rum 151, amaretto and some butane. Perhaps this could become the official
mixed drink of Mac programming end-project celebration, something which I
intend to investigate rigorously in the hours ahead. ;-)


 "Good God, don't you know what this means, boy?
  Anything you do for the rest of your life is going to be graph theoretic!"
  Theus ([e-mail])



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From: [e-mail] (John Snook)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 17:10:51 GMT

[e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:


>    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
>have been wondering for months now.
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
>to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
>However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.

    Jolt, Quaduple espressos, these are some of the things I love.




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From: [e-mail] (Norman Graham)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 92 17:01:03 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?

My vote is for Bass Ale (on tap please). It's perfect for both before and
after those meetings with the ubiquitous inept management. And it's really
just about as soft as you want for these circumstances.

--
Norman Graham

<[e-mail]>                 Standard Disclaimer Applies
{cbosgd,rutgers}!okstate!norman



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From: [e-mail] (Charles Andrew Burchill)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 19:27:33 GMT


I would like to add coke classic, and canada dry ginger ale.
--
Save a dinasaur ride a bike.
Save a Devonian rain forest, walk.
Charles A. Burchill <[e-mail]>



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Herrington)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 20:13:35 GMT
Organization: University of Miami Medical School

[e-mail] (Norman Graham) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>>What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>My vote is for Bass Ale (on tap please).

Before: Cafe Cubano
During: Pepsi, Coke & Cafe Cubano
After: Beer (to help you sleep three hours before the next round of coding)

P.S. While optomizing, best to double all caffeine doses.
--
"Electric word 'life', it means forever and that's a might long time.  But I'm
 here to tell yah, there's something else... The after-life, a word of
 never-ending happiness, you can always see the sun, day or night.  So when you
 call up that shrink in Beverly hills, you know the one, Dr. everything-we-all-



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From: [e-mail] (Greg Trimper)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 16:18:20 GMT
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

[e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:


>    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
>have been wondering for months now.
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
>to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
>However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.

Well, Pepsi and Jolt used to be my favorites, but my doctor recently took
me off of caffiene (I go to the doctor - "I haven't been able to sleep for
three days," says I.  "Do you drink caffiene?" says the Doctor?  "No," says
I "just a 12 pack of Pepsi every day....")

Now I drink CAFFIENE FREE Pepsi.....  And haven't gotten any serious
programming done for the past two weeks...  perhaps caffiene is a
needed element of programing... any research on this?


Greg Trimper   [e-mail]  (the ellipses man)



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From: [e-mail] (James Miller)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 1992 22:00:29 UTC
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA [138.9.200.1]

All the developers I have known have always been huge Mr. Pibb fans. I
personally will stay with Coke Classic...



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From: [e-mail] (Keith Rollin)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 22:20:00 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
>have been wondering for months now.
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
>to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
>However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.

When I worked in DTS, Mountain Dew was the drink of choice (in fact, if
you've ever seen a dogcow button, the background is supposed to be the
same green as that on a Mountain Dew can -- the person who made those
buttons went to the button manufacturer with a Mountain Dew can and
said "Make them look like this."). However, Dewski's were on the way
out by the time I left DTS. I think they all drink espressos and
cappuccinos over there, now.    :-) (Hi, guys!)

Here are some interesting figures off the top of my head. Someone once
gathered some figures on the number of "units" of caffeine per 12 ounce
drink (I don't know what units you measure caffeine with).

Coffee:        ~220
Tea:        ~120
Jolt:        ~74
Coke:        ~54

--
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keith Rollin           ---            <Taligent .signature under construction>
Disclaimer: Pretty soon, I really _won't_ be speaking for Apple...



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From: [e-mail] (Graeme Hiebert)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 22:07:04 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
>have been wondering for months now.
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
>to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
>However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.
>
>
>...
>  Theus ([e-mail])

I suppose it depends on exactly how one defines "soft drink."  If you mean a
carbonated drink, the choice amongst those I know (including myself) would have
to be the old dependable Coke Classic.  I usually find myself with a big
A&W root beer mug full of orange juice, however.  (It may be somehow related
to the fact that I do most of the little Mac programming I do on Saturday
mornings, while waiting for my fiancee to get up & about.)

   -g

- -
Graeme Hiebert         [e-mail]               UUCP: ...uunet!van-bc!mdavcr!geh

(It's another sunny day in Vancouver; the weekend must be over!)
--
Graeme Hiebert         [e-mail]               UUCP: ...uunet!van-bc!mdavcr!geh

"Canada - a nation of brown goo eaters." (Paraphrased from Gilbert Gottfried)



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From: [e-mail] (Zach Kessin)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 21:18:53 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

[e-mail] (Charles Andrew Burchill) writes:


>I would like to add coke classic, and canada dry ginger ale.
I second the motion for coke!!!
>--
>Save a dinasaur ride a bike.
>Save a Devonian rain forest, walk.
>Charles A. Burchill <[e-mail]>

--Zach

   Zachary Kessin                / --------------------------------+
 [e-mail]  / real.world: I don't think the    |
 Kessin@brandeis (BITNET)      /   news server gets that group!    |
 [phone]                /____________________________________|



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From: [e-mail] (Larry Jewell)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 23:17:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Yukon Jack



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From: [e-mail] (Lloyd Lim)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 23:30:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?

Gots to be Coke Classic.
After all, everyone knows that Apple licensed it from Coca-Cola.

+++
Lloyd Lim     Internet: [e-mail]
              America Online: LimUnltd
              Compuserve: 72647,660
              US Mail: 224 Lysle Leach Hall, U.C. Davis, Davis, CA 95616



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From: [e-mail] (Michael W. Gilbert)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 2 Mar 92 22:25:43 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY


I second the motion for DP (the non-combusting type).

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From: [e-mail] (Brian Bechtel)
Subject:  Official Soft Drink of Mac Programming
Date: 3 Mar 92 00:53:59 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

[e-mail] (Keith Rollin) writes:

>When I worked in DTS, Mountain Dew was the drink of choice (in fact, if
>you've ever seen a dogcow button, the background is supposed to be the
>same green as that on a Mountain Dew can -- the person who made those
>buttons went to the button manufacturer with a Mountain Dew can and
>said "Make them look like this."). However, Dewski's were on the way
>out by the time I left DTS. I think they all drink espressos and
>cappuccinos over there, now.    :-) (Hi, guys!)

Hi, yourself, dude.  The Dew is still the drink of choice.  For those
away from North America, Mountain Dew is a carbonated citrus-flavored
beverage, or as Tim Dierks just told me, "a clear, lemon-lime flavored,
sugar and caffeine hell."  Mark Baumwell also mentioned that "most
things you drink go in clear and come out yellow.  Mountain Dew is the
opposite."

And the espresso machine is broken...  I was the only one getting any
use out of it, anyway.

Obligatory programming note:
To detect when AppleTalk is turned off by the user, use the AppleTalk
Transition Queue to alert you to .MPP closures.  See IM VI, pg. 32-17.

--Brian Bechtel     [e-mail]     "My opinion, not Apple's"



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From: [e-mail] (Zach Kessin)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 02:04:41 GMT

[e-mail] (Lloyd Lim) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>>
>>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?

>Gots to be Coke Classic.
>After all, everyone knows that Apple licensed it from Coca-Cola.
NOT
>+++
>Lloyd Lim     Internet: [e-mail]
>              America Online: LimUnltd
>              Compuserve: 72647,660
>              US Mail: 224 Lysle Leach Hall, U.C. Davis, Davis, CA 95616

If the people in Apple's upper ranks have anything to do with it it is
Pepsi! Remember where Jobs Found Sculley after all!
Note: Sculley who invented the Pepsi Chalange chose Coke when he took
it. (from his Auto Biography)

- --Zach

   Zachary Kessin                / --------------------------------+
 [e-mail]  / real.world: I don't think the    |
 Kessin@brandeis (BITNET)      /   news server gets that group!    |
 [phone]                /____________________________________|










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From: [e-mail] (Craig Oshima)
Date: 3 Mar 92 04:52:28 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

[e-mail] (Zach Kessin) writes:
>[e-mail] (Charles Andrew Burchill) writes:


>>I would like to add coke classic, and canada dry ginger ale.
>I second the motion for coke!!!

Okay, make it a third, and whoever suggested the beer afterwards, I have
to raise a frosty mug in agreement!

Craig
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| [e-mail]            | One Airport Road, Q5             |
+------------------------------------ | Savoy, Illinois  61874           |
   "Wing failure checklist, please."  +----------------------------------+

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 3 Mar 1992 03:24:55 EST
From: Christopher Tate <[e-mail]>

Definitely Dr. Pepper.

And Turkish coffee, if I can find it, for special celebrations (like,
"it compiled," or "it didn't crash," or....)

(For coffee freaks who have never experienced Turkish coffee, contemplate
this:  it's coffee, but it's *thick*.)

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From: [e-mail]
Date: 3 Mar 92 02:32:04 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>     Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
> have been wondering for months now.
>     What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>     My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine

I'm afraid I'd have to plug Folger's instant coffee.  Here's my recipe:
  1 t. (heaping) Folger's instant coffee
  1 c. sugar
  2 c. hot water (microwave on high for 2.5 min.)
  1 T. powdered milk (or a shot of the real moloko)

Keeps me going 'til 6 in the morning as required or desired.

john calhoun-

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From: [e-mail] (Colin "Atilla" Steele)
Date: 3 Mar 92 13:46:29 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA


            Coke classic!!

Jolt is too hard to find, or else it would be my #1.

- --


- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Colin Steele     | Cayman Systems, 26 Landsdowne St., Cambridge, MA 02139
 [e-mail] | [phone] x209 | applelink D0523 | Fax [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Jerome Jahnke)
Date: 3 Mar 92 16:45:08 GMT
Organization: Biology Learning Center

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>
>     Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
> have been wondering for months now.
>     What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>     My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
> to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
> However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.

Uhhhhhhh I do copious amounts of Diet Cola. Any type, really, but most often
it is Pepsi (I got the right one Uh Huh). I used to do sugared soda's, but
when my weight topped 250 I decided to cut calories, I am now at 210 which
is quite a bit more comfortable, it is amazing what cutting sodas will do.

Jer,
- ----
Jerome Jahnke
Biology Learning Center
University of Arizona
'[e-mail]' or [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Peirce)
Date: 3 Mar 92 04:58:22 GMT
Organization: Peirce Software

It's clear that it used to be Jolt Cola, no doubt about that.

Today, I don't see it around much, but I doubt there could ever be
a replacement for it.

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From: [e-mail] (Eric E. Braun)
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 18:34:54 GMT

Water!


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 3 Mar 1992 15:18:58 EST
From: <[e-mail]>

Boo to the person who said *water*.  Doesn't he know that electronics and water
don't mix.
      My vote is for Diet Coke.  I'd have quite a *large* ass if I sat around
all day drinking beverages which contained large amounts of GLUCOSE.  A diet
soda (no matter how bad they taste!) is the way to go.  My body is already
complaining about the lack of attention it gets (especially my organic optical
scanning devices!


                          Robert Falco
                          Multimedia and Training
                          Penn State University
                          RXF10@PSUVM

  M uch
  U do about spending
  L ots of
  T ime
  I installing more
  M emory  and
  E uologizing about the
  D ays
  I n the future which will make it
  A ll worth it

          "The deadline is tomorrow... can I help you move the Mac over by
               the couch?"

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From: John Lacey <[e-mail]>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 16:27:10 -0500

[e-mail] (Eric E. Braun) writes:

>Water!

Hear, hear.  I consume about 2 liters of water, 2 liters of Dr. Pepper
and 2 liters of guava juice in a good day (with two programming sessions).

- --
John Lacey,                  How can I do this? I don't know; and because I do
[e-mail]   not know, I shall make the attempt.  e e cummings

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From: [e-mail] (Don Wilcox)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 22:56:35 GMT

Actually, I drink only diet Mountain Dew (diet dew to the initiated).  Almost
no calories, a slightly fruity taste, and more caffeine than any other diet\
soft drink.  Can't imagine how I ever programmed without it.

Don
Don Wilcox                         | "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of
Washington University in St. Louis |   Christ, for it is the power of salvation
email: [e-mail]         |   to all who believe."

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From: [e-mail] (Matt Mora)
Date: 3 Mar 92 21:03:47 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>I'm afraid I'd have to plug Folger's instant coffee.  Here's my recipe:
>  1 t. (heaping) Folger's instant coffee
>  1 c. sugar
   ^^^^
   yeow! is that  1 cup?

>  2 c. hot water (microwave on high for 2.5 min.)
>  1 T. powdered milk (or a shot of the real moloko)

Boy I bet you're zinging!


Matt



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___________________________________________________________
Matthew Mora                |   my Mac  [e-mail]
SRI International           |  my unix  [e-mail]
___________________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail] (William Riel)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 04:06:12 GMT

I'd have to cast my vote for coke classic (Jolt would get my vote
if I could find it).  Usually I alternate between cups of hot, strong
coffee and a cold coke.

Cheers
Bill
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Corp. Reed)
Organization: not with that duck, you don\'t
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 05:55:25 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Craig Oshima) writes:
>[e-mail] (Zach Kessin) writes:
>>[e-mail] (Charles Andrew Burchill) writes:
>
>
>>>I would like to add coke classic, and canada dry ginger ale.
>>I second the motion for coke!!!
>
>Okay, make it a third, and whoever suggested the beer afterwards, I have
>to raise a frosty mug in agreement!
>
I second the motion for ginger ale. Or Mountain Dew.

- -Corp Reed
[e-mail]
One more article for those who didn't kill this thread to begin with.


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From: [e-mail] (John Coolidge)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 06:44:45 GMT

[e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>    Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
>have been wondering for months now.
>    What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>    My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
>to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
>However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.

Where I worked last summer (Apple ATG), there were lots of Coke cans
around. The building (City Center 4, for those who know it) has these
decorative wires running through it in a square pattern, which is just
the right size for an empty soda can. There are lots of Coke cans
embedded in those wires by now :-).

My personal favorites are (in no particular order) Diet Coke, Diet
Pepsi, Diet Mountain Dew, Diet Dr. Pepper, and Diet Sprite. A good cup
of hot tea can be great, too (sweetened, if at all, with Equal! :-)).

- --John

- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
John L. Coolidge   til May: [e-mail]   May: [e-mail]
Of course I don't speak for the U of I, Apple, or anyone else except myself
Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge. Copying allowed if (and only if) attributed.
You may redistribute this article if and only if your recipients may as well.

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From: [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 04:55:36 GMT

Mountain Dew also has enough preservatives in it to prevent mold from
growing in the cans on your desk...

Amanda Walker                              [e-mail]
Visix Software Inc.                    ...!uupsi!visix.com!amanda
- --
"I used to be disgusted; now I'm just amused."    --Elvis Costello

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From: [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 04:57:48 GMT

Before noon: Coke Classic
After noon: Double Espresso
After dinner: Double Cappucino
For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail

All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.

Amanda Walker                              [e-mail]
Visix Software Inc.                    ...!uupsi!visix.com!amanda
- --
Black holes are where God is dividing by zero.

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From: [e-mail] (Sander C. Temme)
Date: 4 Mar 92 09:30:07 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

VOTE for Coke classic!


Sander


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Sander C. Temme          Mail:                "All on-planet telephoning
University of Amsterdam  [e-mail]      should be on local rate."
Physics Department       [e-mail]                 (Just a thought)

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From: [e-mail] (Sander C. Temme)
Date: 4 Mar 92 09:35:38 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

[e-mail] writes:

>Boo to the person who said *water*.  Doesn't he know that electronics and water
>don't mix.

Ever tried to mix electronics and coke ? (-8

S.


- --
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University of Amsterdam  [e-mail]      should be on local rate."
Physics Department       [e-mail]                 (Just a thought)

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From: [e-mail] (Jean-Michel Male)
Date: 4 Mar 92 14:36:50 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
RXF10|>          Boo to the person who said *water*.  Doesn't he know that electronics and water
RXF10|>          don't mix.
RXF10|>                My vote is for Diet Coke.  I'd have quite a *large* ass if I sat around
RXF10|>          all day drinking beverages which contained large amounts of GLUCOSE.  A diet
RXF10|>          soda (no matter how bad they taste!) is the way to go.  My body is already
RXF10|>          complaining about the lack of attention it gets (especially my organic optical
RXF10|>          scanning devices!


RXF10|>                                    Robert Falco
RXF10|>                                    Multimedia and Training
RXF10|>                                    Penn State University
RXF10|>                                    RXF10@PSUVM

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           Is it possible to have so bad taste ?


    Jean-Michel MALE'        \\\\\
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From: [e-mail] (Norman Graham)
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 17:37:54 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Amanda Walker) writes:
>Before noon: Coke Classic
>After noon: Double Espresso
>After dinner: Double Cappucino
>For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail
>
>All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.


Amanda sounds like my dream mate! Too bad I already have one. :-)

Espresso and Cappucino should _definitely_ rank high on the list
of official beverages. And of course, Belgian dark chocolate or a
biscotti cioccolotti puts just the right spin on the mood adjustment
provided by the coffee.

At TMS, we couldn't talk management into buying an espresso machine,
so we had to get it off site. On site, we had to drink regular coffee
(but I made sure it was thick :-).

We made up for our lack of espresso by instituting a little ritual:
When the old coffee can was empty, we would escort it to the storage
area in a solemn procession, occasionally accompanied by a dirge.
We would then circle around the new coffee can, inhale the aroma as
the new can was opened, and then dance around the can in ecstasy.
For some reason, the Windows programmers never caught on to this
ritual. Probably a general lack of karma on their part. :-)

Alas, bonsai no longer flourish at TMS: The mac programmers are gone.

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony J. Cunningham)
Date: 4 Mar 92 13:09:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service (Until the end of April)

It has to be Mountain Dew. Sweet, sticky and a nice belt of caffine. I was
introduced to this marvelous brew last summer in San Jose and I wish I
had brought some back with me.
T

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From: [e-mail] (Hedley Rainnie)
Date: 4 Mar 92 22:02:58 GMT
Organization: Integrated Information Tech.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Lacey) writes:
> [e-mail] (Eric E. Braun) writes:
>
> >Water!
>
> Hear, hear.  I consume about 2 liters of water, 2 liters of Dr. Pepper
> and 2 liters of guava juice in a good day (with two programming sessions).
>
> --
> John Lacey,                  How can I do this? I don't know; and because I do
> [e-mail]   not know, I shall make the attempt.  e e cummings

After you have finished all this consumption, I can guess where you spend
the rest of your day :-)

Hedley

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From: [e-mail] (Quinn "The Eskimo!")
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 01:12:40 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker) writes:
>
> Before noon: Coke Classic

Someone who programs before noon!!!  Shock, horror!

BTW my vote is for Coke also (Classic I suppose but here in the land of Oz,
amongst the other nice things, there's no such thing as *new* Coke).  The
only problem is that if I drink it as I program I end up sleeping 4 feet
about the bed (-:

Quinn "The Eskimo!"   <[e-mail]>  "Real Coke, Diet .sig"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dalrymple)
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 17:20:19 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jerome Jahnke) writes:

>Uhhhhhhh I do copious amounts of Diet Cola.

Diet Coke(tm) is what keeps me going during late-night code binges.
(my officemates can attest to that fact, although Amanda has me beaten for the
Cola-Can Sculpture award.)  I'm one of those weirdos that really does
"like it for the taste of it."  (that, and the fact that sugared drinks
tend to make me stop breathing...)

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ObQuote: "Ekky greeble Hoover ni peng ni bork."  -- Nietzsche

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From: [e-mail] (Ed Hall)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 21:12:49 GMT

Well, the official drinks WERE Peet's Coffee and Coca Cola Classic (not
together :-) until the caffine from drinking a pot of Peet's a day put this
nice little hole in my stomach lining. :-(

The official drink was immediately changed to decaffinated Peet's and caffine-
free Coca Cola Classic.  **SIGH**

Oh well, decaffinated Peet's tastes better than most other caffinated brands...

Ed

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From: [e-mail] (Annard Brouwer)
Date: 5 Mar 92 12:29:03 GMT

Tea! What else?
After 3 pots, it makes you go to the bathroom a lot though...

Annard
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From: [e-mail] (Kent Borg)
Date: 5 Mar 92 04:11:01 GMT
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Keith Rollin) writes:
 >When I worked in DTS, Mountain Dew was the drink of choice (in fact, if
 >you've ever seen a dogcow button, the background is supposed to be the
 >same green as that on a Mountain Dew can -- the person who made those
 >buttons went to the button manufacturer with a Mountain Dew can and
 >said "Make them look like this.")

So what then is the explaination for the red background on the kanji
dogcow button?

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From: [e-mail] (Good Witch of the Silicon Forest)
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:32:00 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes...
>Tea! What else?
>After 3 pots, it makes you go to the bathroom a lot though...
>

    Three pots of ANYTHING would make you go to the bathroom a lot...

    But, seriously, I would vote for Diet Coke...

    Tina Marie Femea
    [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 92 21:15:45 GMT

[e-mail] (Quinn "The Eskimo!") writes:
> Someone who programs before noon!!!  Shock, horror!

Of course.  I didn't say I got up before noon, though... usually, the
A.M. is the *last* part of my day, when little sugar boosts help the
caffeine...

Amanda Walker                              [e-mail]
Visix Software Inc.                    ...!uupsi!visix.com!amanda
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Fitzgerald)
Date: 6 Mar 92 07:16:22 GMT
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs


  > My doctor took me off caffeine..now I don't get any work done...

Try phenylalanine. It's an amino acid that's a precursor to norepenephrine; you
can buy it over-the-counter at your typical health-food store like G.N.C. But
talk to your doctor first - for one thing, if you're a phenylketonuric, you
DON'T want to get any extra phenylalanine. If your doctor doesn't know anything
about this, get the book Life Extension by Pearson and Shaw, and try to find a
doctor that does.

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From: [e-mail] (Brian Fitzgerald)
Date: 6 Mar 92 07:35:05 GMT
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs


  > Here are some interesting figures off the top of my head. Someone
  > once gathered some figures on the number of "units" of caffeine per
  > 12 ounce drink (I don't know what units you measure caffeine with).

Caffeine is measured in milligrams (mg). The amount of caffeine in a cup of
coffee varies radically, depending on how it's made.

   Coffee, brewed      206 mg
           instant     114 mg
           cappucino   146 mg   (General Foods, from powder)

   Coca-cola           46 mg
   RC                  36 mg
   Mello Yello         52 mg
   Mr. Pibb            40 mg
   Mountain Dew        54 mg
   Pepsi Cola          38 mg
   Diet RC             48 mg
   Tab                 46 mg

The other diet colas are the same as the non-diet versions.

Note that 200mg of caffeine is like taking 10mg of amphetamines, in what it
does to your body (ie, the "pick-me-up", it raises your metabolism about 10
percent). If you take more than 500mg of caffeine a day, that's enough to start
worrying about. Caffeine stimulates the release of epinephrine and
norepenephrine, without providing the ability to make more. Hence, you're up
for a while, then you crash. Cocaine does a similar thing with acetylcholine,
only much more severe. You can take phenylalanine (an amino acid) to produce
more norepenephrine, without most of the side-effects of caffeine.

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From: [e-mail] (Mr. Neb)
Date: 6 Mar 92 15:31:09 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

>From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne):
>
> P.S.    Dr. Pepper is not to be confused with the mixed drink known as
> the Flaming Doctor Pepper, which consists of a pint of Weinhard's Ale,
> rum 151, amaretto and some butane. Perhaps this could become the official
> mixed drink of Mac programming end-project celebration, something which I
> intend to investigate rigorously in the hours ahead. ;-)

    I think this sounds good even during the programming stage. ;)


    Mr. Neb

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From: [e-mail] (Alexander M. Rosenberg)
Date: 6 Mar 92 18:26:05 GMT
Organization: Hackers Anonymous

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>
>     Having beaten a big deal deadline today, I can ask something I
> have been wondering for months now.
>     What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?
>     My personal favorite is Dr. Pepper, which has just enough caffeine
> to keep me awake for days at a time without embalming me in the process.
> However, Jolt, Squirt and Mountain Dew have been mentioned.
>

Clearly, it has to be Mountain Dew. Squirt is barely available around
Cupertino. Jolt is also obscure and only for certain special occasions.

Dr. Pepper is quite nice, but those nasty prune juice rumors, coupled
with that "I'm a pepper" guy running around naked in "An American
Werewolf in London" remove it from the running.

Mountain Dew is the winner, especially with the new can design and that
catchy new phrase for the '90s : "Get Vertical with Dew."

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From: [e-mail] (Kent Sandvik)
Date: 6 Mar 92 20:28:49 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Keith Rollin) writes:
> When I worked in DTS, Mountain Dew was the drink of choice (in fact, if
> you've ever seen a dogcow button, the background is supposed to be the
> same green as that on a Mountain Dew can -- the person who made those
> buttons went to the button manufacturer with a Mountain Dew can and
> said "Make them look like this."). However, Dewski's were on the way
> out by the time I left DTS. I think they all drink espressos and
> cappuccinos over there, now.    :-) (Hi, guys!)

Hi, hi, yes Mountain Dew seems to be out just now, I've checked the fridge
contents, and since ZZ left DTS the pile of Mountain Dew cans are the
biggest. Also the biggest Dr. Pepper consumer, Paul Snively, are no longer
here. The top-10 consumed drinks seems to be for the moment:

Pepsi/Diet Pepsi
Coke
various juices

but in general the Mountain Dew generation has left DTS, sigh. My favourite
is Cherry Coke/ Cherry 7Up, it has the right medicine taste to vitalize the
brain
3am.

Speaking about in-things inside DTS, the Twin Peaks/Prisoner hysteria is now
over, and Ren&Stimpy is the current new inside show (I guess half of DTS
have not even seen the cartoons yet...).

Cheers,
Kent


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[e-mail]
All opinions expressed are my own, and not related to any company or
organization.           Have fun!

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From: [e-mail] (Dean Yu)
Date: 7 Mar 92 06:45:20 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>
> P.S.    Dr. Pepper is not to be confused with the mixed drink known as
> the Flaming Doctor Pepper, which consists of a pint of Weinhard's Ale,
> rum 151, amaretto and some butane. Perhaps this could become the official
> mixed drink of Mac programming end-project celebration, something which I
> intend to investigate rigorously in the hours ahead. ;-)
>
>

  Hmmm, considering there were an awful lot of these consumed at an offsite
right after 7.0 shipped, I would say that the precedence has already been set.

  -- Dean Yu
     Blue Meanie, Negative Ethnic Role Model, Window Cleaner,
      Skanky Hack Consultant, etc.
     Apple Computer, Inc.
     Most people around here don't think I'm old enough to drink yet...

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From: [e-mail] (Jerome Chan)
Date: 8 Mar 92 14:13:13 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

Tomato Juice with 10 drops of tabasco sauce.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Malson)
Date: 9 Mar 92 17:23:34 GMT
Organization: Harris Corporation, GCSD, Melbourne, FL

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>
>     What exactly is the official soft drink of Mac programming?

Snapple! My favorites are Raspbery Iced Tea and Creme d'Vanilla.

After midnight, it's coffee with Bailey's Irish Creme.

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From: [e-mail] (Miles Kehoe)
Date: 9 Mar 92 20:08:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Dr. Pepper!

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From: [e-mail] (Ken McLeod)
Date: 8 Mar 92 09:26:52 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

I drink Pepsi. Lots and lots of it. This is probably because the soft drink
vending machine in our building doesn't have many options (although curiously
enough, it dispenses both Coke and Pepsi from the same machine! :-0)

There's also a hidden symbolic meaning in the Pepsi can design. The logo
is a circle composed of red and blue halves (foreshadowing the Apple-IBM
alliance.) On the "old" cans, there were large red bands below the logo that
covered most of the can's area. The "new" can design for the 90's* gets rid
of those large red areas, bringing the mix of red and blue closer. However,
the red portion of the circle is still on top. :-)

Official NON-soft drink for Mac programmers (well, at least the ones I used
to hang out with):  Guinness.

- -ken

*-(The phrase "for the 90's" is a language virus!)

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Holcomb)
Date: 9 Mar 92 21:05:44 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Coolidge) writes:
>
> Where I worked last summer (Apple ATG), there were lots of Coke cans
> around. The building (City Center 4, for those who know it) has these
> decorative wires running through it in a square pattern, which is just
> the right size for an empty soda can. There are lots of Coke cans
> embedded in those wires by now :-).
>

When our group moved up to the third floor, we had to start the collection
all over.  From looking around, current favorites are Coke Classic, Dr Pepper,
and Caffeine Free Coke Classic.  Personally, I prefer coffee in the mornings and
Cherry Coke in the afternoons/evenings, but our machine doesn't stock it...so I
normally make do with Coke Classic and Dr Pepper.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (Kent Sandvik)
Date: 9 Mar 92 21:17:52 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff Holcomb) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
> Coolidge) writes:
> > Where I worked last summer (Apple ATG), there were lots of Coke cans
> > around. The building (City Center 4, for those who know it) has these
> > decorative wires running through it in a square pattern, which is just
> > the right size for an empty soda can. There are lots of Coke cans
> > embedded in those wires by now :-).
> When our group moved up to the third floor, we had to start the collection
> all over.  From looking around, current favorites are Coke Classic, Dr Pepper,
> and Caffeine Free Coke Classic.  Personally, I prefer coffee in the mornings
and
> Cherry Coke in the afternoons/evenings, but our machine doesn't stock it...so
I
> normally make do with Coke Classic and Dr Pepper.

Visitors to CC3/CC4 (DTS is in CC3/3rd floor, the secret is now out)
always wonder about the soda cans inside the wires. My classical answer
is that during an earthquake the cans will dampen the side-wise movement
of the building, hepp.

Mark Johnson had an *impressive* wall of Coke cans, but that's gone.

Kent

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Kemper [Informatik])
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern (Germany)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1992 13:21:08 GMT

How about the "Pangalaktischer Donnergurgler?"

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Radcliffe)
Date: 12 Mar 92 03:05:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kent Borg) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Keith Rollin) writes:
>  >When I worked in DTS, Mountain Dew was the drink of choice (in fact, if
>  >you've ever seen a dogcow button, the background is supposed to be the
>  >same green as that on a Mountain Dew can -- the person who made those
>  >buttons went to the button manufacturer with a Mountain Dew can and
>  >said "Make them look like this.")
>
> So what then is the explaination for the red background on the kanji
> dogcow button?
>
The Japanese were unclear on the concept.  I suppose nobody bothered to
translate Tech Note #31 for them.  And that wasn't the only problem they
had.  When they first tried to get them made, I guess the printer didn't
understand Kanji, because they came back saying "moof" in English.  I
still have some of those buttons around.  Anyway, they eventually got it
right.  Apparently the equivalent in Kanji is pronounced something like
"moo-wow".  Just doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

I would still vote for Mt. Dew.  I knew I'd found a home when I first
came to work for DTS and discovered that there were other people besides
me that drank Dew.  One of my prized possessions hanging in my office is
a model biplane made entirely out of Mt. Dew cans.

Of course I also heartily agree with those promoting beer.  I'm always
up for a pint of draft Guinness from Britannia Arms or a tied pint (23 oz.)
of amber from the Tied House in Mt. View (notice that it rhymes with
Mt. Dew).

Dave Radcliffe
Apple Computer
MacDTS

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Maluszynski)
Date: 26 Mar 92 08:26:43 GMT
Organization: Lysator Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden

It's the PAN GALACTIC GARLGLEBLASTER.

One of those really gets you going :)

Chris

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From: [e-mail] (James Miller)
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA [138.9.200.1]

All the developers I have known have always been huge Mr. Pibb fans. I
personally will stay with Coke Classic...

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